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Dalton
Nov 22, 2024 12:15:54 GMT -5
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Post by cherokee04 on Nov 22, 2024 12:15:54 GMT -5
“People sucketh” - 2nd Hesitations 10:4 I must have a defective Bible, I don't have that chapter....... Funny, it’s in our Cherokee Revised Version. |
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Post by John C. on Nov 22, 2024 13:43:12 GMT -5
ESPN website today has an interesting take on why DK fell to the 17th spot in the draft...
Scouts are skeptical about three-year college players, turned off by almost all four-year college players and usually slam the notebook on the mere idea of drafting a five-year college player like Knecht. Teams draft on upside and 23-year-olds and upside don't go together, which is why scouts lowered Knecht on their draft boards. But the Lakers saw impressive measurables at the draft combine: a 6-foot-9 wingspan, a 39-inch vertical and the fastest shuttle run in the field. As one longtime talent evaluator pointed out: Knecht led the SEC in scoring last season, and the list of players who have done that -- Pete Maravich, Bernard King, Shaquille O'Neal and Dominique Wilkins, among them -- should've earned him more respect on draft night. For nearly two decades, one of the best positions to be in as an NBA player was a jump shooter alongside LeBron James. Knecht has settled right into that role for the Lakers. And for a team that has been starving for scoring outside of James, Anthony Davis, Austin Reaves and D'Angelo Russell over the past two seasons, Knecht has a chance to make a real impact as a rookie. "He's proof of why it can work -- if they have a sure NBA skill," one scout told ESPN of Knecht's path to the NBA. "He has one in his shot, and shooting is at a premium."
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Post by goldenjay on Nov 22, 2024 14:12:20 GMT -5
ESPN website today has an interesting take on why DK fell to the 17th spot in the draft... Scouts are skeptical about three-year college players, turned off by almost all four-year college players and usually slam the notebook on the mere idea of drafting a five-year college player like Knecht. Teams draft on upside and 23-year-olds and upside don't go together, which is why scouts lowered Knecht on their draft boards. But the Lakers saw impressive measurables at the draft combine: a 6-foot-9 wingspan, a 39-inch vertical and the fastest shuttle run in the field. As one longtime talent evaluator pointed out: Knecht led the SEC in scoring last season, and the list of players who have done that -- Pete Maravich, Bernard King, Shaquille O'Neal and Dominique Wilkins, among them -- should've earned him more respect on draft night. For nearly two decades, one of the best positions to be in as an NBA player was a jump shooter alongside LeBron James. Knecht has settled right into that role for the Lakers. And for a team that has been starving for scoring outside of James, Anthony Davis, Austin Reaves and D'Angelo Russell over the past two seasons, Knecht has a chance to make a real impact as a rookie. "He's proof of why it can work -- if they have a sure NBA skill," one scout told ESPN of Knecht's path to the NBA. "He has one in his shot, and shooting is at a premium." I think you are right that NBA teams generally draft on upside potential, which is why they value raw youngsters over experienced veteran college players. What I don't get is that these raw rookies rarely hit a consistent professional level of performance until AFTER they have sat on the bench for a team, then they don't really go up on their next contract offer because "he hasn't done much yet", so he goes to another team for a lot more money, and after he has been in the league four or five years, he is FINALLY ready to really earn his money. And this happens over and over again. A guy who has been Player of the Year in a major conference almost always has the skills and temperament that really good pros have. They have had the burden of carrying their teams against good competition and being leaders on their squads and in their communities. You just never know that about 19-year-old kids--you can only hope that they will grow into the kind of person and player that Knecht for one already IS. |
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Post by bchilds on Nov 22, 2024 19:16:45 GMT -5
There is a massive difference between getting better at basketball and getting better at college basketball.
Knecht was doing things at Tennessee that he had never done. He was the best player on the best team in the conference. He was getting better at basketball.
This is much different than someone like a Drew Timme. Timme is a great basketball player. Doesn’t have elite athleticism. Not a ball handler. Etc. He definitely got better at basketball but most of his exploits were getting better at college basketball.
Scouts should be able to see the difference. Crazy that they didn’t.
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Dalton
Nov 22, 2024 19:22:00 GMT -5
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Post by cherokee04 on Nov 22, 2024 19:22:00 GMT -5
There is a massive difference between getting better at basketball and getting better at college basketball. Knecht was doing things at Tennessee that he had never done. He was the best player on the best team in the conference. He was getting better at basketball. This is much different than someone like a Drew Timme. Timme is a great basketball player. Doesn’t have elite athleticism. Not a ball handler. Etc. He definitely got better at basketball but most of his exploits were getting better at college basketball. Scouts should be able to see the difference. Crazy that they didn’t. Yes, I think DK showed his abilities at UT against a high level of competition. He showed he can shoot, handle the ball well, create space for his shot with the ball in his hand, and take it to the rack and finish against contact. Nobody else on the team showed anything remotely close to what Knecht did. Few in the SEC did. |
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Dalton
Nov 23, 2024 20:57:59 GMT -5
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Post by glenstorm on Nov 23, 2024 20:57:59 GMT -5
yes, people are just the worst. “People sucketh” - 2nd Hesitations 10:4 LOL! Wellllllll…  Romans 3:10-12 “…as it is written: ‘None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together… no one does good, not even one.’” So yeah… |
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Dalton
Nov 27, 2024 10:19:03 GMT -5
Post by pdlglm on Nov 27, 2024 10:19:03 GMT -5
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Dalton
Nov 27, 2024 11:15:20 GMT -5
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Post by cherokee04 on Nov 27, 2024 11:15:20 GMT -5
He’s really smooth. There’s a bit of Dale Ellis in his game I think. The styles aren’t the same, but the smooth, almost effortless look at times, is similar. |
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Post by gvt11 on Nov 27, 2024 11:29:43 GMT -5
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Dalton
Nov 27, 2024 14:55:42 GMT -5
Post by pdlglm on Nov 27, 2024 14:55:42 GMT -5
looked it up (cause I am a dork like that) and he was just short of 90% on FT%. |
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Dalton
Nov 27, 2024 17:03:06 GMT -5
Post by cherokee04 on Nov 27, 2024 17:03:06 GMT -5
looked it up (cause I am a dork like that) and he was just short of 90% on FT%.  |
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Post by knoxkid on Nov 27, 2024 23:14:47 GMT -5
JJ put Dalton back in the starting lineup tonight, Lakers get back into the win column on the road in SA. Dalton is leading scorer with 20 on 58% shooting. He's 4-2 as a starter.
Plus he's doing things like this:
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Dalton
Nov 29, 2024 12:32:50 GMT -5
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Post by gvt11 on Nov 29, 2024 12:32:50 GMT -5
Analysis of age vs upside in draft picks.
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Post by gvt11 on Nov 29, 2024 12:41:45 GMT -5
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Post by smyrnavol on Nov 29, 2024 12:51:29 GMT -5
Analysis of age vs upside in draft picks. Everyone associated with the NBA is an idiot who can’t see what’s right in front of them. Knecht isn’t even a person to them, he’s a figure on their moneyball spreadsheets that can’t be wrong. It doesn’t matter what he does, they’re going to devalue it because it doesn’t fit with their nerd data models. He could average 50 a game, and they’d all say “well, what’s he going to be like in 6 years???” Meanwhile, almost every young kid they draft will be like Jaden Springer and Keon Johnson and “developing” in the Gleague for half a decade. They will all draft 18 year olds who they hope will one day equal the production of DK instead of drafting DK because that’s what they think smart people do. |
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