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Post by pdlglm on Jul 29, 2022 9:58:59 GMT -5
I think DeVoe also showed he was a decent coach with his time at Navy. He took them to 3 NCAA tourneys (2 16 seeds and a 15 seed) and the Midshipmen haven't been back to the dance since he left.
But his time there was sort of like his time at UT, started out really good and then ran out of juice... they won 13 games total his last two years.
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Post by pdlglm on Jul 29, 2022 10:02:53 GMT -5
DeVoe went to 10 NCAA tourneys in 31 years of coaching.
Martin 4 in 14 years.
Their records are pretty similar.....
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Post by cherokee04 on Jul 29, 2022 11:54:21 GMT -5
DeVoe went to 10 NCAA tourneys in 31 years of coaching. Martin 4 in 14 years. Their records are pretty similar..... Keep in mind, though, that DeVoe spent 12 years at Navy and 2 at Wyoming, and a significant portion of his coaching career was done when the NCAAT was a smaller field. Cuonzo spent his first 3 years at Missouri State, but after that he was at Tennessee, Cal and Missouri. So he has been at places that have had more basketball success historically than where DeVoe spent a huge chunk of his coaching career, and all of CCM's have come in the era of 64+ team fields. I think there are similarities, but I give DeVoe an edge as a coach, personally. |
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Post by pdlglm on Jul 29, 2022 13:03:31 GMT -5
"Go Johnny Go
& Take DeVoe"
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Post by Stopspopsdrops83 on Jul 29, 2022 15:12:49 GMT -5
A little strange and maybe I missed but not a single mention of Buzz Peterson, he must have left the same impression on everyone else as he did myself, it just happened once long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away
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Post by cherokee04 on Jul 29, 2022 15:44:31 GMT -5
A little strange and maybe I missed but not a single mention of Buzz Peterson, he must have left the same impression on everyone else as he did myself, it just happened once long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away Buzz was on the low end too, but I think a notch above Wade and BK. This has been pointed out before, but bears repeating: while he tended toward disappointing finishes and could be said to have achieved less with more, the more time that goes by and we have numerous poor to mediocre coaches, Jerry Green looks better in retrospect. I'm not saying he was great, or even really good, by any stretch. But he was 4/4 getting into the NCAAT. Yeah, he wasn't exactly a fun personality and became especially difficult and embittered at the end, but JG wasn't too bad at UT. We just all felt, with good reason IMO, like we should have been getting a little bit better results with what we had. |
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Post by govols85 on Jul 29, 2022 23:59:34 GMT -5
A little strange and maybe I missed but not a single mention of Buzz Peterson, he must have left the same impression on everyone else as he did myself, it just happened once long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away Remember that one of Buzz’s teams get lampooned for Jon Higgins’ academic suspension. Little information to be found, but was referenced in this 2010 article. www.rockytoptalk.com/2010/1/5/1234122/tennessee-basketball-suspensions |
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Post by pdlglm on Jul 30, 2022 8:27:38 GMT -5
Buzz is the elevator music of TN basketball coaches.
Except for that obscene collapse in the final minute against Louisville... Completely uninteresting.
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Post by wtmvol on Jul 30, 2022 8:42:44 GMT -5
Buzz is the elevator music of TN basketball coaches. Except for that obscene collapse in the final minute against Louisville... Completely uninteresting. I’ll give this to Buzz and Cuonzo… I was never stressed out watching a game… |
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Post by brewii on Jul 30, 2022 9:12:04 GMT -5
If Turner doesnt get called for that 'foul' then we probably have folks who would argue that Deacon is on par with Bruce. ...or the triple bounce shot off the board/rim doesn't go in for Loyola. |
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Post by brewii on Jul 30, 2022 9:13:37 GMT -5
A little strange and maybe I missed but not a single mention of Buzz Peterson, he must have left the same impression on everyone else as he did myself, it just happened once long, long ago in a galaxy far, far away Buzz was on the low end too, but I think a notch above Wade and BK. This has been pointed out before, but bears repeating: while he tended toward disappointing finishes and could be said to have achieved less with more, the more time that goes by and we have numerous poor to mediocre coaches, Jerry Green looks better in retrospect. I'm not saying he was great, or even really good, by any stretch. But he was 4/4 getting into the NCAAT. Yeah, he wasn't exactly a fun personality and became especially difficult and embittered at the end, but JG wasn't too bad at UT. We just all felt, with good reason IMO, like we should have been getting a little bit better results with what we had. Sorta like we feel with Barnes at the moment. |
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Post by govols85 on Jul 30, 2022 9:58:15 GMT -5
Buzz is the elevator music of TN basketball coaches. Except for that obscene collapse in the final minute against Louisville... Completely uninteresting. I’ll give this to Buzz and Cuonzo… I was never stressed out watching a game… You forgot this game. youtu.be/NBjirObvdto |
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Post by cherokee04 on Jul 30, 2022 11:27:41 GMT -5
I’ll give this to Buzz and Cuonzo… I was never stressed out watching a game… You forgot this game. youtu.be/NBjirObvdtoI remember that one well. My brother-in-law is a Tech fan and I knew how it gutted him to lose that one. That was just absolute coaching malfeasance by Tech unless the player was told to miss the free throws and ignored the coach. Half a second to go, if UT gets the rebound on the miss, there is almost no way possible to get off a shot, much less with enough mustard on it to travel almost 90 feet. It was a ridiculous way to lose a game. |
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Post by govols85 on Jul 31, 2022 9:06:33 GMT -5
Buzz was on the low end too, but I think a notch above Wade and BK. This has been pointed out before, but bears repeating: while he tended toward disappointing finishes and could be said to have achieved less with more, the more time that goes by and we have numerous poor to mediocre coaches, Jerry Green looks better in retrospect. I'm not saying he was great, or even really good, by any stretch. But he was 4/4 getting into the NCAAT. Yeah, he wasn't exactly a fun personality and became especially difficult and embittered at the end, but JG wasn't too bad at UT. We just all felt, with good reason IMO, like we should have been getting a little bit better results with what we had. Sorta like we feel with Barnes at the moment. To be fair to CRB, he’s given us more than could be expected of his teams with exception of the NCAAT. Additionally, he’s had a number of tough losses of key players at critical moments or even long stretches. Those include Punter, Alexander, Turner, Fulky multiple times, and JJJ. I don’t think any of us really appreciate how some of these kids like Fulky and JJJ have tried to fight through illness and injuries to stay on the court. |
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Post by cherokee04 on Jul 31, 2022 11:27:55 GMT -5
Sorta like we feel with Barnes at the moment. To be fair to CRB, he’s given us more than could be expected of his teams with exception of the NCAAT. Additionally, he’s had a number of tough losses of key players at critical moments or even long stretches. Those include Punter, Alexander, Turner, Fulky multiple times, and JJJ. I don’t think any of us really appreciate how some of these kids like Fulky and JJJ have tried to fight through illness and injuries to stay on the court. Agreed, but unfortunately the NCAAT exception is kind of a glaring one. |
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