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Post by govols85 on Aug 31, 2023 23:48:34 GMT -5
CRB has won two conference tournaments. By my count, the Big XII tournament record was 22-17 (about the same as his NCAA tournament record at Texas), with no tournament championships, but six runners-up. The runner-up years involved losses to Kansas four times, an OU final four team, and an OSU final four team. Which means . . . ? Coach Barnes’ coached teams won the Big East Tournament Championship in 1994 and the SEC Tournament Championship in 2022. |
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Post by contextmatters on Sept 1, 2023 15:22:59 GMT -5
By my count, the Big XII tournament record was 22-17 (about the same as his NCAA tournament record at Texas), with no tournament championships, but six runners-up. The runner-up years involved losses to Kansas four times, an OU final four team, and an OSU final four team. Which means . . . ? Coach Barnes’ coached teams won the Big East Tournament Championship in 1994 and the SEC Tournament Championship in 2022. I wasn't intending to look like I was disputing you. I actually meant to reply to cherokee's prior question about the Big XII record. Also, I didn't even realize I was the one that bumped the thread. For some reason, I thought you had bumped it, which is why I read it again in the first place.
Which means . . . I am an idiot. I'll see myself out now.
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Post by pdlglm on Sept 1, 2023 15:33:29 GMT -5
I have no idea what it means. Heck, that was the first post in this thread in over a year. Good time for the bump, though, since pdlglm is no doubt working on the 2023 update as we speak.  |
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Post by pdlglm on Oct 15, 2023 22:10:15 GMT -5
Updated with last year's results.
Barnes has far and away the best record against the top 5. He moved above .500 in the NCAAT (at TN). We went 6-4 against ranked opponents and Deacon moved to 5 games below .500 against the top 25. His road record continues to lag among the top TN coaches, he went 4-6 last year. 7-3 last season on neutral floors.
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Post by cherokee04 on Oct 16, 2023 13:25:36 GMT -5
Updated with last year's results. Barnes has far and away the best record against the top 5. He moved above .500 in the NCAAT (at TN). We went 6-4 against ranked opponents and Deacon moved to 5 games below .500 against the top 25. His road record continues to lag among the top TN coaches, he went 4-6 last year. 7-3 last season on neutral floors. Whatever the potion is that CRB uses before we play top 5 teams should be bottled and sold. He'd make a fortune. I am surprised that he is below .500 against the top 25. I assume that is at UT and not over his entire career. I would assume his first two years at UT, spent getting the program built back up, is why he's below .500. |
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Post by pdlglm on Oct 16, 2023 13:29:01 GMT -5
Updated with last year's results. Barnes has far and away the best record against the top 5. He moved above .500 in the NCAAT (at TN). We went 6-4 against ranked opponents and Deacon moved to 5 games below .500 against the top 25. His road record continues to lag among the top TN coaches, he went 4-6 last year. 7-3 last season on neutral floors. Whatever the potion is that CRB uses before we play top 5 teams should be bottled and sold. He'd make a fortune. I am surprised that he is below .500 against the top 25. I assume that is at UT and not over his entire career. I would assume his first two years at UT, spent getting the program built back up, is why he's below .500. he went 3-9 his first 2 years at TN against ranked teams.... every game against a ranked opponent while at UT is listed on the pdf on page 1. |
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Post by cherokee04 on Oct 16, 2023 16:12:13 GMT -5
Whatever the potion is that CRB uses before we play top 5 teams should be bottled and sold. He'd make a fortune. I am surprised that he is below .500 against the top 25. I assume that is at UT and not over his entire career. I would assume his first two years at UT, spent getting the program built back up, is why he's below .500. he went 3-9 his first 2 years at TN against ranked teams.... every game against a ranked opponent while at UT is listed on the pdf on page 1. That makes total sense. Really, postseason disappointments notwithstanding, I think after his first two seasons when he got things rolling, we have only had one "bad" season, which was the COVID year when we looked very unlikely to get an NCAAT bid. And even that was a touch above .500 for the season I think. The guy just rarely puts out a bad team, or even a team that isn't ranked or just outside of being ranked. He's about as consistent as it gets. |
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Post by pdlglm on Oct 16, 2023 16:49:13 GMT -5
The Jaden Springer team was pretty frustrating
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Post by cherokee04 on Oct 16, 2023 18:21:04 GMT -5
The Jaden Springer team was pretty frustrating “Frustrating” is probably one of the words most commonly associated with UT basketball. |
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Post by pdlglm on Mar 4, 2024 11:11:39 GMT -5
after the Bammer game Deacon is 5-3 on the yr against teams ranked in the top 25 at the time of the game. now 32-35 for his UT tenure.
top 5 9-7
6-10 4-5
11-25 19-23
He has currently moved ahead of Martin into 4th in SEC win%.
He moved ahead of Pearl and into 3rd in winning pct at home.
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Post by govols85 on Mar 7, 2024 9:46:10 GMT -5
after the Bammer game Deacon is 5-3 on the yr against teams ranked in the top 25 at the time of the game. now 32-35 for his UT tenure. top 5 9-7 6-10 4-5 11-25 19-23 He has currently moved ahead of Martin into 4th in SEC win%. He moved ahead of Pearl and into 3rd in winning pct at home. Another top 20 or 25 win last night. Additionally, Coach Barnes now has 100 SEC wins as the Tennessee head coach. |
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Post by pdlglm on Sept 28, 2024 18:24:52 GMT -5
new stats file is added to the first post.
Barnes takes over as the all time leader in NCAA tourney wins at Tennessee. He also holds the all time record in SECT wins, though he did not add to that total last year.
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Post by cherokee04 on Nov 13, 2024 19:49:29 GMT -5
Updating the Vols since 1970 post. Fixing errors, adjusting the weird way I did the decades when I first did it. I am up to Bruce -will finish it this summer. Couple things... Mears was fantastic but worse than Barnes in the tourney. DeVoe really blew a golden opportunity. He had some good teams for a while and then just fell off the cliff. The 86 team was 11-7 (4-5) on Jan 30th after beating UGA with wins over #8 LSU and #10 Illinois and they proceeded to lose 9 of their last 10. They went winless on the road and only won once away from Stokely... Against Tex A&M in the Superdome. Buzz once went 14-3 at home and managed only 15 wins for the year. Bald Kevin #1 beat 1 ranked team in 3 seasons. Man he was an awful coach. I never quibble with your research and seldom with your opinions, but I think it is somewhat misleading, even if factually true, to say that Mears was worse than Barnes in the tourney. FWIW, I was a UT undergrad during the early years of Mears' tenure, which, IIRC, began in 1963--if I'm wrong you or somebody will correct me. In all his time at UT, Mears teams made the tournament only a handful of times between 1963 and 1977, but as many have said, the selection criteria for the NCAA tourney were far more restrictive in his era. Under current criteria, practically every one of his teams would have made it. Given that many opportunities to play in the tournament, a coach as good as Mears, with a team that played a style that was hard to prepare for, could have undoubtedly won more games than they did. There is also the fact that a first-round game in the Mears era was, in effect, a Sweet Sixteen game--no chance for a team to get accustomed to postseason play against an early cupcake, not to mention chances at several more wins in several seasons overall before running into the tougher competition. I would certainly agree that it is difficult to compare eras, but you seem to have done that, somewhat unfairly, with your Mears-to-Barnes comparison. Agreed, it is an apples and horse apples comparison when looking at NCAAT history in college basketball over different eras. |
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Post by cherokee04 on Nov 13, 2024 19:50:05 GMT -5
One more thing to add about Bald Kevin and the radio days as I like to call them, most games still weren’t televised, he did absolutely hands down the best post game show I ever listened to. You just never knew what would come out of his mouth. I don’t miss the losing but I often miss John Ward and the radio days. Mississippi St. also had a good radio guy his name escapes me, maybe Munson?Larry Munson was the Georgia radio guy. Jack Cristil was the announcer for Mississippi State. He held that job for 58 years and announced his retirement after a home basketball game against Tennessee in 2011. He passed away 3 years later at the age of 88. I believe he and John Ward were really good friends. He was born in Memphis. I had forgotten about Cristil. |
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