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Post by pdlglm on Dec 4, 2024 11:20:35 GMT -5
and the hot start to the Vols offense... some tid bits...
• This is Tennessee’s first time posting any stretch of eight straight games with 1+ PPP since 2018-19.
• This is also Tennessee’s first time posting eight straight games of 1+ PPP to begin the season since 2000-21, or 24 years ago.
• This is Tennessee’s first time ever posting seven outings of 50%+ from two in their first eight games.
• At eighth nationally on KenPom, this is Tennessee’s first time ranking inside the KenPom top 10 offenses a month in…ever.
• Three of Tennessee’s 50 best opponent-adjusted performances (Baylor, APSU, Syracuse) since 2007 have come in the first eight games.
• Lastly: Tennessee has six games with a 1.1+ PPP, a 55% or better hit rate from two, and a 33%+ OREB%. Last season, with Dalton Knecht, they had five. In 36 tries.
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Post by cherokee04 on Dec 4, 2024 11:38:40 GMT -5
and the hot start to the Vols offense... some tid bits... • This is Tennessee’s first time posting any stretch of eight straight games with 1+ PPP since 2018-19. • This is also Tennessee’s first time posting eight straight games of 1+ PPP to begin the season since 2000-21, or 24 years ago. • This is Tennessee’s first time ever posting seven outings of 50%+ from two in their first eight games. • At eighth nationally on KenPom, this is Tennessee’s first time ranking inside the KenPom top 10 offenses a month in…ever. • Three of Tennessee’s 50 best opponent-adjusted performances (Baylor, APSU, Syracuse) since 2007 have come in the first eight games. • Lastly: Tennessee has six games with a 1.1+ PPP, a 55% or better hit rate from two, and a 33%+ OREB%. Last season, with Dalton Knecht, they had five. In 36 tries. Impressive! It’s early, but it seems like what we see with our eyes is supported: this offense is the best one we’ve had under CRB. |
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Post by smyrnavol on Dec 4, 2024 11:59:19 GMT -5
Crazy what happens when you bring guys in that can shoot the ball and teach them how to play defense, vs. bringing in defense guys and trying to teach them how to shoot. For years and years we tried to build a humble defensive roster and ended up with mudball. Now we have guys with offensive game that have bought into all the other stuff.
Also, I think we are greatly benefiting from the departure of Vescovi and James. Two guys who did not want the ball and were passive to the point of hurting the team on offense for years. Okpara and Phillips are limited offensively, but they know what they are good at and play their role. Everyone else is going to shoot or drive the ball when they are open and have no intention of hiding. We also make open shots now!
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Post by pdlglm on Dec 4, 2024 12:09:11 GMT -5
Crazy what happens when you bring guys in that can shoot the ball and teach them how to play defense, vs. bringing in defense guys and trying to teach them how to shoot. For years and years we tried to build a humble defensive roster and ended up with mudball. Now we have guys with offensive game that have bought into all the other stuff. Also, I think we are greatly benefiting from the departure of Vescovi and James. Two guys who did not want the ball and were passive to the point of hurting the team on offense for years. Okpara and Phillips are limited offensively, but they know what they are good at and play their role. Everyone else is going to shoot or drive the ball when they are open and have no intention of hiding. We also make open shots now! I will countenance no Cade Phillips slander. Phillips is carrying a 135.7 Ortg at KP (which is 74th nationally). He is shooting 73.5% from 2PT and is 8th in the nation in OR%. His usage may be limited, but within that usage he is a baller. also, it appears that you are right about taking an offensive guy and teaching him defense - certainly seems to be the case with Igor and Chaz. But I would argue that when Vescovi got to Knoxville he was also an offensive player. |
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Post by cherokee04 on Dec 4, 2024 14:42:46 GMT -5
Crazy what happens when you bring guys in that can shoot the ball and teach them how to play defense, vs. bringing in defense guys and trying to teach them how to shoot. For years and years we tried to build a humble defensive roster and ended up with mudball. Now we have guys with offensive game that have bought into all the other stuff. Also, I think we are greatly benefiting from the departure of Vescovi and James. Two guys who did not want the ball and were passive to the point of hurting the team on offense for years. Okpara and Phillips are limited offensively, but they know what they are good at and play their role. Everyone else is going to shoot or drive the ball when they are open and have no intention of hiding. We also make open shots now! I will countenance no Cade Phillips slander. Phillips is carrying a 135.7 Ortg at KP (which is 74th nationally). He is shooting 73.5% from 2PT and is 8th in the nation in OR%. His usage may be limited, but within that usage he is a baller. also, it appears that you are right about taking an offensive guy and teaching him defense - certainly seems to be the case with Igor and Chaz. But I would argue that when Vescovi got to Knoxville he was also an offensive player. “His usage may be limited, but within that usage he is a baller”. I think that sums it up perfectly. He’s not a guy you can feed in the post for a range of post move scoring (at least I don’t think he is), but the lobs, running the court and putbacks will make him a sneaky scoring threat in some games. |
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Post by pdlglm on Dec 4, 2024 14:45:17 GMT -5
7.4 pts and almost 5 boards......in 18 minutes a game.
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Post by cherokee04 on Dec 4, 2024 15:25:15 GMT -5
7.4 pts and almost 5 boards......in 18 minutes a game. He’s giving us what I expected. |
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Post by ramblervol on Dec 4, 2024 15:39:45 GMT -5
I will countenance no Cade Phillips slander. Phillips is carrying a 135.7 Ortg at KP (which is 74th nationally). He is shooting 73.5% from 2PT and is 8th in the nation in OR%. His usage may be limited, but within that usage he is a baller. also, it appears that you are right about taking an offensive guy and teaching him defense - certainly seems to be the case with Igor and Chaz. But I would argue that when Vescovi got to Knoxville he was also an offensive player. “His usage may be limited, but within that usage he is a baller”. I think that sums it up perfectly. He’s not a guy you can feed in the post for a range of post move scoring (at least I don’t think he is), but the lobs, running the court and putbacks will make him a sneaky scoring threat in some games. I like him a lot. He reminds me of someone, I just can’t remember who. Maybe Dennis Rodman without the tats and ink! He does the little things and the dirty work that wins games, but many times go unnoticed. |
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Post by bdpvols on Dec 4, 2024 16:33:27 GMT -5
Crazy what happens when you bring guys in that can shoot the ball and teach them how to play defense, vs. bringing in defense guys and trying to teach them how to shoot. For years and years we tried to build a humble defensive roster and ended up with mudball. Now we have guys with offensive game that have bought into all the other stuff. Also, I think we are greatly benefiting from the departure of Vescovi and James. Two guys who did not want the ball and were passive to the point of hurting the team on offense for years. Okpara and Phillips are limited offensively, but they know what they are good at and play their role. Everyone else is going to shoot or drive the ball when they are open and have no intention of hiding. We also make open shots now! I will countenance no Cade Phillips slander. Phillips is carrying a 135.7 Ortg at KP (which is 74th nationally). He is shooting 73.5% from 2PT and is 8th in the nation in OR%. His usage may be limited, but within that usage he is a baller. also, it appears that you are right about taking an offensive guy and teaching him defense - certainly seems to be the case with Igor and Chaz. But I would argue that when Vescovi got to Knoxville he was also an offensive player. I would absolutely agree that Santi was an offensive player when he got on campus. I believe he scored 17 (or maybe more) points in his first game against LSU when he had only been on campus a few days. Very impressive offensive game I thought. And was really pretty good offensively his first three years. Still have no idea what happened to him that last year. A mystery I guess we'll never know the answer to. |
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Post by knoxkid on Dec 4, 2024 17:46:08 GMT -5
I will countenance no Cade Phillips slander. Phillips is carrying a 135.7 Ortg at KP (which is 74th nationally). He is shooting 73.5% from 2PT and is 8th in the nation in OR%. His usage may be limited, but within that usage he is a baller. also, it appears that you are right about taking an offensive guy and teaching him defense - certainly seems to be the case with Igor and Chaz. But I would argue that when Vescovi got to Knoxville he was also an offensive player. I would absolutely agree that Santi was an offensive player when he got on campus. I believe he scored 17 (or maybe more) points in his first game against LSU when he had only been on campus a few days. Very impressive offensive game I thought. And was really pretty good offensively his first three years. Still have no idea what happened to him that last year. A mystery I guess we'll never know the answer to. He must have put stick-em on his hands before every game because he could only pump fake. The ball would never actually release. |
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Post by cherokee04 on Dec 4, 2024 17:49:23 GMT -5
Crazy what happens when you bring guys in that can shoot the ball and teach them how to play defense, vs. bringing in defense guys and trying to teach them how to shoot. For years and years we tried to build a humble defensive roster and ended up with mudball. Now we have guys with offensive game that have bought into all the other stuff. Also, I think we are greatly benefiting from the departure of Vescovi and James. Two guys who did not want the ball and were passive to the point of hurting the team on offense for years. Okpara and Phillips are limited offensively, but they know what they are good at and play their role. Everyone else is going to shoot or drive the ball when they are open and have no intention of hiding. We also make open shots now! Basketball skills are nice to have on a basketball team. |
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Post by cherokee04 on Dec 4, 2024 17:51:23 GMT -5
I would absolutely agree that Santi was an offensive player when he got on campus. I believe he scored 17 (or maybe more) points in his first game against LSU when he had only been on campus a few days. Very impressive offensive game I thought. And was really pretty good offensively his first three years. Still have no idea what happened to him that last year. A mystery I guess we'll never know the answer to. He must have put stick-em on his hands before every game because he could only pump fake. The ball would never actually release. Hilarious, and that's spot on. |
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Post by govols85 on Dec 5, 2024 12:59:58 GMT -5
and the hot start to the Vols offense... some tid bits... • This is Tennessee’s first time posting any stretch of eight straight games with 1+ PPP since 2018-19. • This is also Tennessee’s first time posting eight straight games of 1+ PPP to begin the season since 2000-21, or 24 years ago. • This is Tennessee’s first time ever posting seven outings of 50%+ from two in their first eight games. • At eighth nationally on KenPom, this is Tennessee’s first time ranking inside the KenPom top 10 offenses a month in…ever. • Three of Tennessee’s 50 best opponent-adjusted performances (Baylor, APSU, Syracuse) since 2007 have come in the first eight games. • Lastly: Tennessee has six games with a 1.1+ PPP, a 55% or better hit rate from two, and a 33%+ OREB%. Last season, with Dalton Knecht, they had five. In 36 tries. That piece was amazing. Well done! |
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Post by goldenjay on Dec 5, 2024 13:27:55 GMT -5
Even after seeing a bit of Igor at UNC-Charlotte, I have been pleasantly surprised by how productive he has been with the Vols. He checks a lot of boxes for this team. If they turn out to be a genuine national championship contender, it will be in large part because he has come through for them.
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Post by John C. on Dec 5, 2024 13:36:50 GMT -5
Ray Mears, Don Devoe, Bruce Pearl... All had their moments in Big Orange Country, but it is becoming readily apparent that Rick Barnes is the GOAT of Tennessee men's basketball. How about this nugget from Mike Wilson of the News Sentinel...
"The Vols have been ranked in the top five of the AP poll 28 times in the past seven seasons, including once this season. They had been ranked in the top five 17 times in the previous 70 years of the poll."
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