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Post by gvt11 on Oct 28, 2024 22:22:38 GMT -5
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Post by John C. on Oct 29, 2024 11:30:00 GMT -5
This stat courtesy of Wes Rucker... "Tennessee outscored Indiana by five points in Zakai Zeigler's 37 minutes on the floor. Indiana outscored Tennessee by nine points in Zeigler's three minutes on the bench." I dare say that ZZ's shooting percentage will never be worse than the Indiana game but his leadership and defensive prowess will always be on point.
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Post by smyrnavol on Oct 29, 2024 11:50:09 GMT -5
This stat courtesy of Wes Rucker... "Tennessee outscored Indiana by five points in Zakai Zeigler's 37 minutes on the floor. Indiana outscored Tennessee by nine points in Zeigler's three minutes on the bench." I dare say that ZZ's shooting percentage will never be worse than the Indiana game but his leadership and defensive prowess will always be on point. Idk, ZZ has always been good for a handful of 2-10 type games each season. He’s a really streaky shooter and has his dry spells and gets frustrated. There’s probably going to be more of those this year, especially if he has the pressure of being the only real scoring option. |
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Post by gvt11 on Oct 29, 2024 12:19:41 GMT -5
This stat courtesy of Wes Rucker... "Tennessee outscored Indiana by five points in Zakai Zeigler's 37 minutes on the floor. Indiana outscored Tennessee by nine points in Zeigler's three minutes on the bench." I dare say that ZZ's shooting percentage will never be worse than the Indiana game but his leadership and defensive prowess will always be on point. Zig has been my favorite member of the team since the day he signed. |
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Post by pdlglm on Oct 29, 2024 12:25:17 GMT -5
Gonna have to play 36 minutes this yr
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Post by goldenjay on Oct 29, 2024 12:29:58 GMT -5
This stat courtesy of Wes Rucker... "Tennessee outscored Indiana by five points in Zakai Zeigler's 37 minutes on the floor. Indiana outscored Tennessee by nine points in Zeigler's three minutes on the bench." I dare say that ZZ's shooting percentage will never be worse than the Indiana game but his leadership and defensive prowess will always be on point. Idk, ZZ has always been good for a handful of 2-10 type games each season. He’s a really streaky shooter and has his dry spells and gets frustrated. There’s probably going to be more of those this year, especially if he has the pressure of being the only real scoring option. I agree with most of this, but I don't think ZZ is going to be the "only real scoring option" this year. It is true that Lanier had a rough shooting night, but nearly all of his shots were good ones, and could have just as easily gone in as not. I would have liked to see some better scoring from Milicic, but he did have eight rebounds against a big, strong opposing team. Also, I think some of us might have underestimated how hard it is to replace FOUR starters from last year's exceptional team. It is a marvel and a credit to the program that Barnes has created that the Vols were ranked as high as they were in the preseason. The fact is that we just don't know how good this UT team can be this year, but too much gloom-and-doom off this one exhibition seems excessive. |
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Post by cherokee04 on Oct 29, 2024 12:39:22 GMT -5
This stat courtesy of Wes Rucker... "Tennessee outscored Indiana by five points in Zakai Zeigler's 37 minutes on the floor. Indiana outscored Tennessee by nine points in Zeigler's three minutes on the bench." I dare say that ZZ's shooting percentage will never be worse than the Indiana game but his leadership and defensive prowess will always be on point. Without knowing what the rotations are when ZZ was in and when he was out, it's hard to know how much stock to put in that fairly simple observation from Rucker. And my guess is that as much as anything, us not likely having a very good PG on the roster outside of ZZ contributes to any disparity. I agree he provides leadership and defense, but his offense can be as spotty as several we've had in recent years. |
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Post by cherokee04 on Oct 29, 2024 12:41:17 GMT -5
This stat courtesy of Wes Rucker... "Tennessee outscored Indiana by five points in Zakai Zeigler's 37 minutes on the floor. Indiana outscored Tennessee by nine points in Zeigler's three minutes on the bench." I dare say that ZZ's shooting percentage will never be worse than the Indiana game but his leadership and defensive prowess will always be on point. Idk, ZZ has always been good for a handful of 2-10 type games each season. He’s a really streaky shooter and has his dry spells and gets frustrated. There’s probably going to be more of those this year, especially if he has the pressure of being the only real scoring option. It's early and I don't want to flip out over one exhibition game. But... if it turns out that we more or less struck out on getting legitimate scoring threat help out of the portal, then ZZ can't carry this team on his back offensively. That's not a critique of him, either. He shouldn't be expected to. |
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Post by cherokee04 on Oct 29, 2024 12:44:58 GMT -5
Idk, ZZ has always been good for a handful of 2-10 type games each season. He’s a really streaky shooter and has his dry spells and gets frustrated. There’s probably going to be more of those this year, especially if he has the pressure of being the only real scoring option. I agree with most of this, but I don't think ZZ is going to be the "only real scoring option" this year. It is true that Lanier had a rough shooting night, but nearly all of his shots were good ones, and could have just as easily gone in as not. I would have liked to see some better scoring from Milicic, but he did have eight rebounds against a big, strong opposing team. Also, I think some of us might have underestimated how hard it is to replace FOUR starters from last year's exceptional team. It is a marvel and a credit to the program that Barnes has created that the Vols were ranked as high as they were in the preseason. The fact is that we just don't know how good this UT team can be this year, but too much gloom-and-doom off this one exhibition seems excessive. Personally, based on their play last year, I don't think it should be considered all THAT difficult to replace what we got from Santi and JJJ last season. My hunch says that we did well landing Okpara but he won't match Aidoo offensively overall. He might be a better defender and rebounder though. But all of this is super speculative at this point. As you said, Lanier may have had an off night and turn out to be a fantastic player for us. Maybe Milicic will be good enough. I think Carr is a huge wildcard. If he doesn't take a big step forward this season, then I will be massively disappointed. |
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Post by goldenjay on Oct 30, 2024 12:00:02 GMT -5
I agree with most of this, but I don't think ZZ is going to be the "only real scoring option" this year. It is true that Lanier had a rough shooting night, but nearly all of his shots were good ones, and could have just as easily gone in as not. I would have liked to see some better scoring from Milicic, but he did have eight rebounds against a big, strong opposing team. Also, I think some of us might have underestimated how hard it is to replace FOUR starters from last year's exceptional team. It is a marvel and a credit to the program that Barnes has created that the Vols were ranked as high as they were in the preseason. The fact is that we just don't know how good this UT team can be this year, but too much gloom-and-doom off this one exhibition seems excessive. Personally, based on their play last year, I don't think it should be considered all THAT difficult to replace what we got from Santi and JJJ last season. My hunch says that we did well landing Okpara but he won't match Aidoo offensively overall. He might be a better defender and rebounder though. But all of this is super speculative at this point. As you said, Lanier may have had an off night and turn out to be a fantastic player for us. Maybe Milicic will be good enough. I think Carr is a huge wildcard. If he doesn't take a big step forward this season, then I will be massively disappointed. Okay, I get your point about not being that hard to replace the scoring of JJJ and Santi, but those guys also contributed in other ways, such as defense, rebounding, and keeping the ball moving. They knew where everybody else wanted the ball, and though we could have asked for more, they also chipped in offensively on occasion, especially JJJ. DK benefited enormously from their screens, passes, and concentration on defense so DK didn't have to. Good teams are more than the mere sum of their parts; all those newcomers need to learn how to make their parts fit into a cohesive whole, and that may well take some time. We won't know for a month or two if they can do that, but we shouldn't be too concerned that they haven't done it to this point. |
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Post by cherokee04 on Oct 30, 2024 12:51:30 GMT -5
Personally, based on their play last year, I don't think it should be considered all THAT difficult to replace what we got from Santi and JJJ last season. My hunch says that we did well landing Okpara but he won't match Aidoo offensively overall. He might be a better defender and rebounder though. But all of this is super speculative at this point. As you said, Lanier may have had an off night and turn out to be a fantastic player for us. Maybe Milicic will be good enough. I think Carr is a huge wildcard. If he doesn't take a big step forward this season, then I will be massively disappointed. Okay, I get your point about not being that hard to replace the scoring of JJJ and Santi, but those guys also contributed in other ways, such as defense, rebounding, and keeping the ball moving. They knew where everybody else wanted the ball, and though we could have asked for more, they also chipped in offensively on occasion, especially JJJ. DK benefited enormously from their screens, passes, and concentration on defense so DK didn't have to. Good teams are more than the mere sum of their parts; all those newcomers need to learn how to make their parts fit into a cohesive whole, and that may well take some time. We won't know for a month or two if they can do that, but we shouldn't be too concerned that they haven't done it to this point. Most players contribute in ways beyond just scoring. I’m not worried about the defense until I see a reason to be. Santi - adequate rebounder for his position. JJJ was pretty solid as a rebounder. Lots of guys can set screens. Yes, every year you have to merge all the various players into a cohesive whole that is better than their combined individual abilities. But I don’t look at what we got from Santi and JJJ last season and worry that we’ll struggle to replace it. If we do, then this team would stink. I’m very appreciative of what JJJ and Santi gave us for four years. But Santi fell apart last season, and JJJ was always basically a glue guy who was an average scorer except on some infrequent occasions. All JMO |
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