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Post by hamiltonvol on Mar 1, 2024 15:17:01 GMT -5
I don't know what the minutes for each are, but I'm sure Gainey is putting up more shots per minute played than Santi is. I wish we could reverse that part of it. It won’t happen and why change something when it’s working, but often times it seems we hockey sub and Gainey comes in with Mashack and then usually Aidoo and/or ZZ/Knecht are quickly getting breathers as well. So then our offense tends to bog down and Gainey starts forcing things. We seem to do much better when he (Gainey) lets things come to him (like ZZ hitting him for the open 3 late in the first half against Auburn) vs him aggressively hunting his own shot. I wonder if we’d be more effective with Gainey starting in place of Santi, allowing Gainey to be more of a true 3 and D guy, and then having Santi be the one to come of the bench to force things a bit more and play some instant offense when some of our big 3 are getting a breather. Would align Santi more with his traditional role since he’s been here and likely force him to hunt for offense more than when he’s starting with 3 other legit offensive superstars on the floor. Maybe dumb idea and won’t happen anyway, but just a thought. Love this idea. Sounds genius to me. (Which of course means it’s likely the worst idea in the history of basketball)
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Post by ramblervol on Mar 1, 2024 15:35:46 GMT -5
I don't know what the minutes for each are, but I'm sure Gainey is putting up more shots per minute played than Santi is. I wish we could reverse that part of it. It won’t happen and why change something when it’s working, but often times it seems we hockey sub and Gainey comes in with Mashack and then usually Aidoo and/or ZZ/Knecht are quickly getting breathers as well. So then our offense tends to bog down and Gainey starts forcing things. We seem to do much better when he (Gainey) lets things come to him (like ZZ hitting him for the open 3 late in the first half against Auburn) vs him aggressively hunting his own shot. I wonder if we’d be more effective with Gainey starting in place of Santi, allowing Gainey to be more of a true 3 and D guy, and then having Santi be the one to come of the bench to force things a bit more and play some instant offense when some of our big 3 are getting a breather. Would align Santi more with his traditional role since he’s been here and likely force him to hunt for offense more than when he’s starting with 3 other legit offensive superstars on the floor. Maybe dumb idea and won’t happen anyway, but just a thought. I think this s an excellent notion AFV. It makes sense.
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Post by cherokee04 on Mar 1, 2024 16:06:58 GMT -5
I don't know what the minutes for each are, but I'm sure Gainey is putting up more shots per minute played than Santi is. I wish we could reverse that part of it. It won’t happen and why change something when it’s working, but often times it seems we hockey sub and Gainey comes in with Mashack and then usually Aidoo and/or ZZ/Knecht are quickly getting breathers as well. So then our offense tends to bog down and Gainey starts forcing things. We seem to do much better when he (Gainey) lets things come to him (like ZZ hitting him for the open 3 late in the first half against Auburn) vs him aggressively hunting his own shot. I wonder if we’d be more effective with Gainey starting in place of Santi, allowing Gainey to be more of a true 3 and D guy, and then having Santi be the one to come of the bench to force things a bit more and play some instant offense when some of our big 3 are getting a breather. Would align Santi more with his traditional role since he’s been here and likely force him to hunt for offense more than when he’s starting with 3 other legit offensive superstars on the floor. Maybe dumb idea and won’t happen anyway, but just a thought. Knecht, Aidoo and ZZ are primarily what is working for us on offense. I don't have a real objection to starting Gainey over Santi IF it meant that Santi would more aggressively look for his shots and take them when they are open. And yeah, there are times when we just need to feed Knecht too, but that doesn't need to be our only solution when the offense bogs down, because part of that bog is that Santi passes up good shots, IMO.
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Post by Stopspopsdrops83 on Mar 1, 2024 21:56:12 GMT -5
Going into the tournaments we will need a fourth scorer, ZZ has to run the point, Aidoo is going to be at least somewhat neutralized by stronger posts and we all know Dalton is going to get the kitchen sink defenses thrown at him and the team. I don’t see Gainey starting changing that equation. I do believe that any NCAA champion has that one guy that scores beyond his norm, for me it’s Mashack for us. No I’m talking about him averaging 15 points a game I’m just saying he could be that wildcard in a couple of really big games that gives us just enough to get over the hump. I really feel like he won’t be intimidated by the big stage, hope I’m right recent performance would not suggest this but you gotta put your faith in someone if you are going to make that magical run
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Post by knoxkid on Mar 2, 2024 0:03:14 GMT -5
I'm not sure it would work because Gainey is a shot hunter by nature and he would disrupt the starting 5. Santi is passive by nature and a nice compliment to the shot hunters in the starting 5, plus I don't see him being any more aggressive if you put him in the second 5. You need Gainey's shot hunting (whether he makes them or not) in the second 5 or nobody is going to do it.
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Post by smyrnavol on Mar 3, 2024 22:17:19 GMT -5
Gainey needs to stop shooting and drive the ball. He’s our best free throw shooter and actually had a good first step! Decent finisher, too.
He has a terminal case of thinking he’s a shooter, but shooting is probably the worst thing about his entire game. 28% on 100+ attempts means you suck - nothing to debate. But if he committed to driving the ball and getting to the rim, I think he’d be pretty good.
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Post by pdlglm on Mar 4, 2024 10:32:04 GMT -5
After Bammer
Santi 20-50 40.0% Gainey 12-45 26.7%
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Post by cherokee04 on Mar 4, 2024 10:39:59 GMT -5
After Bammer Santi 20-50 40.0% Gainey 12-45 26.7% Woof. Gainey has slipped each season I think. This supports what smyrna is saying, and I thought early in the season that Gainey had shown he can take it to the rack, but just didn't do it enough. He won't convert as many through contact as Knecht does, but he can draw the foul and he hits free throws.
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Post by brewii on Mar 5, 2024 6:47:57 GMT -5
After Bammer Santi 20-50 40.0% Gainey 12-45 26.7% Woof. Gainey has slipped each season I think. This supports what smyrna is saying, and I thought early in the season that Gainey had shown he can take it to the rack, but just didn't do it enough. He won't convert as many through contact as Knecht does, but he can draw the foul and he hits free throws. Completely agree, he needs to drive and create contact to get fouled or kickout to an open shooter. He is good at somehow getting his shot off in and around the basket and his FT% begs for him to try and draw fouls.
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Post by pdlglm on Mar 5, 2024 8:51:18 GMT -5
Gainey 59% at rim. 27% from mid range.
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Post by pdlglm on Mar 7, 2024 13:21:36 GMT -5
After SC
Santi 20-52 38.5% Gainey 13-46 28.2%
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Post by cherokee04 on Mar 7, 2024 14:16:22 GMT -5
After SC Santi 20-52 38.5% Gainey 13-46 28.2% Gainey really needs to attack the rim more. He can hit free throws.
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Post by pdlglm on Mar 11, 2024 11:14:44 GMT -5
after, the blue team...
Santi 20-55 36.3% Gainey 13-46 28.2%
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Post by pdlglm on Mar 22, 2024 9:15:47 GMT -5
After SECT
Santi 20-59 33.9% Gainey 14-49 28.6%
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Post by pdlglm on Mar 22, 2024 9:17:08 GMT -5
After St. Peter's
Santi 22-63 34.9% Gainey 15-52 28.8%
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