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Post by cherokee04 on Jul 2, 2021 15:02:17 GMT -5
That makes sense but I’ve seen references that in the Narnia series, sometimes Lewis makes reference to things that, if you read in chronological order, wouldn’t necessarily make sense b/c you don’t know about it yet. Like it said, it’s clear that folks have varying opinions on it…I’m sure just like if you asked someone how to watch the Star Wars movies, people will have varied opinions. Remembering again that pdl is himself such a huge fan, I was just curious what his take was. I think Lewis himself sort of hinted that he recommended they be read in chronological order though (as you suggested), and not necessarily the published order. And for Narnia it may well be that the chronological order is NOT the best way, so I want to be clear to emphasize that I was only speaking based on the other series. I do find it interesting though that Lewis would hint that the stories be read in that order. If that's the case, why not publish them that way? Maybe he didn't have the overall plan mapped out in his head fully until after he had published some of them? Who knows. Interesting question though. Would you say they are still interesting enough reading for adults who aren't reading them to kids? I mean, yes I have a general knowledge of the overall story and the Christian symbolism and references, but do you think they are also entertaining/interesting for adults? And perhaps we need:
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Post by govols85 on Jul 2, 2021 23:15:00 GMT -5
Yes, very thankful for this forum and to Cherokee for "advertising" it on 247 Vols website! Otherwise, would never have found it. Glad you made it over here, and after an initial push (which was really a lot of folks who didn't like the way 247 handled the shutdown with no notice and little explanation/zero apologies), mostly I let this site sell itself, occasionally dropping news and good discussion points from this site on the Checkerboard and not so subtly mentioning that it came from discussion on the new hoops board, upon which tons of posters asked me for a link. After I reached out to the staff for an explanation of why the change was handled the way it was (and I made it crystal clear to them that I knew they didn't make the actual decision to end the board), the stubbornness and frankly total lack of any kind of basic customer-service oriented response that included no indication of remorse, no ownership of a lack of communication or poor treatment toward longtime members of the Hoopsville community, etc. just offended me far more than the decision to drop the board by 247 itself. Our local guys could have at least pretended to care and acknowledged that they didn't handle the change well. But they steadfastly refused to do so (it's one guy in particular that I dealt with) and I just thought that was completely unprofessional. So I'm not going to lie - I enjoyed knowing that the staff had to read probably at least 50-60 posts on the Checkerboard asking me for a link to this site. I mean, I REALLY got some guilty pleasure out of that, and it clearly irritated one of them in particular, who has been snarky and defensive at times as a result. He even sent me a pm asking me to stop "trolling" the site (different topic, I made a mistake in mentioning the Rivals futurecast for a recruit, which is their competitor - so he said I was "advertising" for Rivals, overstating massively what I was doing). I responded to him that if he had just owned the mistake in the total surprise/lack of communication of just yanking the board without giving anyone any notice at all, and simply been a professional about it, then there might not have been a need to notify the board about the new site. I told him that while I appreciated that he tries to write hoops articles, that the level of discussion on the two boards is not even close. I told him they had been unprofessional in not only how they handled it, but in how they refused to own their mistake, and finally not to pm me again. And he hasn't. Since then, things have settled and we're pretty much just cordial. But he also knows that, when the topic of Hoopsville comes up over there from time to time (raised by someone else, not me), I will not hesitate to mention that we are here, and have found most, but not all, of our former community due to the failure to provide any heads up before the board was just pulled and we couldn't find some of our folks to let them know where we were now. I know I have been a PITA/thorn in his side, and I've told him before that it wouldn't have been that way if he had just done the right thing, which he steadfastly refused to do. Sorry, I know that was a long-winded, rambling and likely repetitive diatribe, but just thinking about it got me ticked all over again and I didn't even try to edit myself. Preach on brother!
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Post by pdlglm on Jul 3, 2021 9:00:57 GMT -5
That makes sense but I’ve seen references that in the Narnia series, sometimes Lewis makes reference to things that, if you read in chronological order, wouldn’t necessarily make sense b/c you don’t know about it yet. Like it said, it’s clear that folks have varying opinions on it…I’m sure just like if you asked someone how to watch the Star Wars movies, people will have varied opinions. Remembering again that pdl is himself such a huge fan, I was just curious what his take was. I think Lewis himself sort of hinted that he recommended they be read in chronological order though (as you suggested), and not necessarily the published order. And for Narnia it may well be that the chronological order is NOT the best way, so I want to be clear to emphasize that I was only speaking based on the other series. I do find it interesting though that Lewis would hint that the stories be read in that order. If that's the case, why not publish them that way? Maybe he didn't have the overall plan mapped out in his head fully until after he had published some of them? Who knows. Interesting question though. Would you say they are still interesting enough reading for adults who aren't reading them to kids? I mean, yes I have a general knowledge of the overall story and the Christian symbolism and references, but do you think they are also entertaining/interesting for adults? Go read Til We Have Faces and then come back to Narnia. Which, of course, should be read as follows: TLTW&TW Prince Caspian Voyage of the Dawn Treader The Silver Chair A Horse and His Boy Magicians Nephew The Last Battle I have read them as an adult but can't speak to whether others would enjoy them as such.
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Post by afvolunteer on Jul 3, 2021 11:20:18 GMT -5
Thanks pdl! I read TLTW&TW first, then my daughter explained to me the chronological order, so I got halfway through the magician’s nephew when I started realizing maybe it wasn’t the best way to read them. So I stopped and am now back to Prince Caspian. I’ll stick with the published order, as you suggested.
As to Cherokees’s question, similar to pdl, I’m probably not a good source. I’m reading them mostly as a way to bond with my daughter, so I don’t have a true unbiased opinion. I’m sure like Harry Potter or several other books/series catered towards kids, as long as you go into knowing that it’s primarily written as a children’s book, you’d enjoy them. But of course, to each his own. I’ll say for me at least, I’ve enjoyed them so far. I also primarily read non-fiction, so it’s been a fun way to force myself to read a different genre, even though it’s for kids!
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Post by knoxkid on Jul 3, 2021 11:29:27 GMT -5
If anyone is looking for a fiction series that will keep you occupied (40+ books), I HIGHLY recommend Terry Pratchett's Discworld series. Every book is just fantastic. I'm a little over halfway through (in like 5 years, I'm a slow reader) and I'm already dreading it ending.
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Post by afvolunteer on Jul 3, 2021 11:46:31 GMT -5
If anyone is looking for a fiction series that will keep you occupied (40+ books), I HIGHLY recommend Terry Pratchett's Discworld series. Every book is just fantastic. I'm a little over halfway through (in like 5 years, I'm a slow reader) and I'm already dreading it ending. The last thing anyone on this forum needs is ANOTHER distraction! I’d rather you spend your energy hunting down Rainmaker. I’m still waiting for BillVol to show up with a poster at some nationally televised event recruiting him to our forum. Kidding and thanks for the recommendation. I think that automatically qualifies you for membership in the finer things club, of which apparently cherokee is the president.
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