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Post by cherokee04 on Aug 1, 2020 16:30:39 GMT -5
I'd like to get others' thoughts.
Do you think we will try to build the offense around trying to get the ball inside to Fulkerson first and let him work for a shot or a kickout pass? Will we be more perimter-oriented with shooters like Bailey, Keon Johnson, Pons (hopefully he's back and hitting 3's), Springer, JJJ, Santi?
I don't mean to ignore Nkamhoua, Anosike, Walker, JJJ inside, Uros, but I don't know how strong we will be inside outside of Fulkerson. And even John gets a lot of his by being cagey more than just posting folks up and overpowering anyone.
So, an inside-out approach, an outside-in approach, or maybe some other paradigm altogether? I'm surely oversimplifying it, which is why I need the sharper hoops minds to weigh in.
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Post by ldsvol on Aug 1, 2020 19:06:01 GMT -5
I'm pretty confident that we will continue to play inside out. Like they say, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." On occasion, depending on how we are being defended, i.e. pack the lane, we may let our shooters take charge from the outside to force the other team to come out and defend. Day in and day out, I think CRB believes in the inside out approach and will go that route as our mainstay offense, an approach I totally agree with.
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Post by cherokee04 on Aug 2, 2020 16:21:20 GMT -5
I'm pretty confident that we will continue to play inside out. Like they say, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." On occasion, depending on how we are being defended, i.e. pack the lane, we may let our shooters take charge from the outside to force the other team to come out and defend. Day in and day out, I think CRB believes in the inside out approach and will go that route as our mainstay offense, an approach I totally agree with. I think you're likely right on our approach. My only concern with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is that we went 17-14 and were clearly going to miss the NCAAT, so I'm not so sure it wasn't at least a little bit broken, haha. But I get that we were basically without Lamonte (even when he was playing he was a shadow of himself), and were trying to figure out our post game. So yeah, it's probably not really "broken" as much as just a transitional year with some bad breaks that complicated it (and let's not forget that Bowden was totally out of sync as well). |
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Post by bchilds on Aug 2, 2020 22:43:39 GMT -5
I think inside out is the way to go when this team allows a defense to get set. Fulkerson is a good passer and has now proven that he can score. Let him touch the ball when things get set and then work from there.
My personal opinion on basketball is get the ball into the front court early to see if a mismatch or 1-on-1 can be exploited strictly by out hustling the other team. I think Barnes mentions this some but players are afraid of a stupid turnover or shot because this strategy follows the phrase “be quick but don’t be in a hurry”. I thought Schofield was great at this his senior year. Just get a casual run up the sideline for a quick baseline post. Square-up and get a high percentage shot.
I also think we have had some really good debates on the pick and roll. I think we should use it more but last year was not the year with the lack of good ball handling under pressure. This year I am hoping it is better. It’s a great way to open up the floor with a 3 out 2 in motion or flex set. Combine that with the athleticism this team should have, runs at the rim should be plenty modifying the flex or motion that Tennessee uses.
The question then gets asked between Vescovi, Bailey, James, Springer, Johnson, and Gaines; Who can certainly not lose their cool when the get two guys running at them in that situation?
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Post by gbo542 on Aug 3, 2020 6:23:50 GMT -5
Keep in mind too that inside-out doesn't have to be through a big. Dribble penetration will collapse a defense worse than anything you can do to it. Guys like Springer, Johnson, Bailey, Santi, JJJ should all be able to get inside on their own and create lanes. There's a lot of horsepower in this team. They're going to be fun to watch.
But like BChilds said, Fulky is an excellent passing big. One of his very underrated attributes. So that coupled with Barnes's philosophy definitely points to some of that being featured too.
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Post by knoxkid on Aug 3, 2020 15:56:12 GMT -5
Keep in mind too that inside-out doesn't have to be through a big. Dribble penetration will collapse a defense worse than anything you can do to it. Guys like Springer, Johnson, Bailey, Santi, JJJ should all be able to get inside on their own and create lanes. There's a lot of horsepower in this team. They're going to be fun to watch. But like BChilds said, Fulky is an excellent passing big. One of his very underrated attributes. So that coupled with Barnes's philosophy definitely points to some of that being featured too. I just watched the Houston Rockets last night win vs the Bucks while shooting an NBA all-time record 61 threes...61! In one game. But basically they had all 5 guys spread out on the 3-point line and let either Westbrook or Harden drive into the middle, take on a double team, then kick it to a wide open corner 3 shooter. I'm not saying we do that all the time, but with our guards, I hope we do it a decent amount each game. |
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Post by gbo542 on Aug 4, 2020 6:27:44 GMT -5
Keep in mind too that inside-out doesn't have to be through a big. Dribble penetration will collapse a defense worse than anything you can do to it. Guys like Springer, Johnson, Bailey, Santi, JJJ should all be able to get inside on their own and create lanes. There's a lot of horsepower in this team. They're going to be fun to watch. But like BChilds said, Fulky is an excellent passing big. One of his very underrated attributes. So that coupled with Barnes's philosophy definitely points to some of that being featured too. I just watched the Houston Rockets last night win vs the Bucks while shooting an NBA all-time record 61 threes...61! In one game. But basically they had all 5 guys spread out on the 3-point line and let either Westbrook or Harden drive into the middle, take on a double team, then kick it to a wide open corner 3 shooter. I'm not saying we do that all the time, but with our guards, I hope we do it a decent amount each game. I agree. You're certainly never going to see Barnes want his team to break any 3 point attempt records, but I think we'll see tons of slashing and kicking out. Springer is an issue off the dribble for the opposition. I'm excited to see what he can do in that aspect. |
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Post by 901Vol on Aug 4, 2020 13:02:54 GMT -5
Whether it be through a post up, a backdoor cut, flashing to the free throw line or dribble drive, it’s imperative to get the ball on the paint every single possession. That’s how you break defenses down
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Post by cherokee04 on Aug 4, 2020 17:17:54 GMT -5
Whether it be through a post up, a backdoor cut, flashing to the free throw line or dribble drive, it’s imperative to get the ball on the paint every single possession. That’s how you break defenses down I don't know if I'd go with every single possession that's necessary. If we get the ball down the floor quickly and we've got a good shooter with a wide open look at a 3, I'd take that. While he's shooting our bigs can be crashing the glass. But I do agree that on the whole, especially in the half court set, we're going to generally work inside-out. |
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